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    Source: Weather and Forecasting:;2009:;volume( 024 ):;issue: 004::page 1159
    Author:
    Kellenbenz, David J.
    ,
    Grafenauer, Thomas J.
    ,
    Davies, Jonathan M.
    DOI: 10.1175/2009WAF2222238.1
    Publisher: American Meteorological Society
    Abstract: Edwards and Thompson have made comprehensive and thorough comments concerning the methods, accuracy, and results in a case study by Kellenbenz et al. These comments questioned the representativeness of model-derived soundings and graphics used, as well as the modification methods employed with soundings presented in the 18 July 2004 case study. Other issues included the application of previous database studies to lifting condensation level (LCL) values found in the 18 July 2004 examination, as well as a focus that emphasized a single tornadic storm. In this response, the authors address problems and oversights with the 18 July 2004 case study, using new data to conduct a reanalysis of the environment on that evening. Additionally, a large independent database of Rapid Update Cycle (RUC) analysis soundings associated with supercell tornadoes is used to provide the context from which to carefully evaluate LCL results from the 18 July 2004 case relative to significant and violent tornadoes. Results indicate that although the LCL height associated with the F4 tornadic supercell in the original case study was probably overestimated, the background LCL environment was still unusually high for a violent tornado. New material presented in this response reinforces the conclusion that, when LCL heights are at the far upper end of empirical study distributions associated with significant tornadoes, undue weight should not be given to LCL as a tornado probability reduction factor when CAPE?storm relative helicity (SRH) combinations and deep-layer shear are also strong.
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    contributor authorKellenbenz, David J.
    contributor authorGrafenauer, Thomas J.
    contributor authorDavies, Jonathan M.
    date accessioned2017-06-09T16:32:46Z
    date available2017-06-09T16:32:46Z
    date copyright2009/08/01
    date issued2009
    identifier issn0882-8156
    identifier otherams-69735.pdf
    identifier urihttp://onlinelibrary.yabesh.ir/handle/yetl/4211437
    description abstractEdwards and Thompson have made comprehensive and thorough comments concerning the methods, accuracy, and results in a case study by Kellenbenz et al. These comments questioned the representativeness of model-derived soundings and graphics used, as well as the modification methods employed with soundings presented in the 18 July 2004 case study. Other issues included the application of previous database studies to lifting condensation level (LCL) values found in the 18 July 2004 examination, as well as a focus that emphasized a single tornadic storm. In this response, the authors address problems and oversights with the 18 July 2004 case study, using new data to conduct a reanalysis of the environment on that evening. Additionally, a large independent database of Rapid Update Cycle (RUC) analysis soundings associated with supercell tornadoes is used to provide the context from which to carefully evaluate LCL results from the 18 July 2004 case relative to significant and violent tornadoes. Results indicate that although the LCL height associated with the F4 tornadic supercell in the original case study was probably overestimated, the background LCL environment was still unusually high for a violent tornado. New material presented in this response reinforces the conclusion that, when LCL heights are at the far upper end of empirical study distributions associated with significant tornadoes, undue weight should not be given to LCL as a tornado probability reduction factor when CAPE?storm relative helicity (SRH) combinations and deep-layer shear are also strong.
    publisherAmerican Meteorological Society
    titleReply
    typeJournal Paper
    journal volume24
    journal issue4
    journal titleWeather and Forecasting
    identifier doi10.1175/2009WAF2222238.1
    journal fristpage1159
    journal lastpage1171
    treeWeather and Forecasting:;2009:;volume( 024 ):;issue: 004
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