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    Comments on “Frictional Dissipation in a Precipitating Atmosphere”

    Source: Journal of the Atmospheric Sciences:;2001:;Volume( 058 ):;issue: 009::page 1173
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    Rennó, Nilton O.
    DOI: 10.1175/1520-0469(2001)058<1173:COFDIA>2.0.CO;2
    Publisher: American Meteorological Society
    Abstract: Pauluis et al. argue that frictional dissipation of energy around falling hydrometeors is an important entropy source in the tropical atmosphere. Their calculations suggest that the frictional dissipation around hydrometeors is about ? of the work available from a reversible convective heat engine. Moreover, based on the residual of the energy budget of a numerical model, not shown in their note, the authors argue that irreversible entropy sources due to diffusion of water vapor and phase changes reduce the mechanical work available from the convective heat engine by about ?. Pauluis et al. conclude that only a tiny fraction of the energy potentially available from a convective heat engine is used to perform work. Rennó and Ingersoll show that frictional heating can be easily included in the heat engine framework via increases in the thermodynamic efficiency of a reversible heat engine. It is shown that the effect of any other irreversible process is merely to reduce the thermodynamic efficiency of a reversible convective heat engine. Thus, the framework proposed by Rennó and Ingersoll is valid even when the heat engine is as irreversible as suggested by Pauluis et al. Since irreversible entropy sources reduce the mechanical work available from the convective heat engine, the study of Pauluis et al. implies that the bulk thermodynamic efficiency of the tropical atmosphere is only a tiny fraction of that predicted by the framework proposed by Rennó and Ingersoll. Both theoretical and observational evidence that the calculations performed by Pauluis et al. overestimate the irreversible entropy changes in the real tropical atmosphere is shown. Moreover, evidence that numerical models are highly dissipative when compared with nature is shown. Therefore, the interpretation of Pauluis et al. that the reversible heat engine framework grossly overestimates the rate at which work is performed by tropical convective systems is not agreed with.
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    contributor authorRennó, Nilton O.
    date accessioned2017-06-09T14:36:52Z
    date available2017-06-09T14:36:52Z
    date copyright2001/05/01
    date issued2001
    identifier issn0022-4928
    identifier otherams-22834.pdf
    identifier urihttp://onlinelibrary.yabesh.ir/handle/yetl/4159328
    description abstractPauluis et al. argue that frictional dissipation of energy around falling hydrometeors is an important entropy source in the tropical atmosphere. Their calculations suggest that the frictional dissipation around hydrometeors is about ? of the work available from a reversible convective heat engine. Moreover, based on the residual of the energy budget of a numerical model, not shown in their note, the authors argue that irreversible entropy sources due to diffusion of water vapor and phase changes reduce the mechanical work available from the convective heat engine by about ?. Pauluis et al. conclude that only a tiny fraction of the energy potentially available from a convective heat engine is used to perform work. Rennó and Ingersoll show that frictional heating can be easily included in the heat engine framework via increases in the thermodynamic efficiency of a reversible heat engine. It is shown that the effect of any other irreversible process is merely to reduce the thermodynamic efficiency of a reversible convective heat engine. Thus, the framework proposed by Rennó and Ingersoll is valid even when the heat engine is as irreversible as suggested by Pauluis et al. Since irreversible entropy sources reduce the mechanical work available from the convective heat engine, the study of Pauluis et al. implies that the bulk thermodynamic efficiency of the tropical atmosphere is only a tiny fraction of that predicted by the framework proposed by Rennó and Ingersoll. Both theoretical and observational evidence that the calculations performed by Pauluis et al. overestimate the irreversible entropy changes in the real tropical atmosphere is shown. Moreover, evidence that numerical models are highly dissipative when compared with nature is shown. Therefore, the interpretation of Pauluis et al. that the reversible heat engine framework grossly overestimates the rate at which work is performed by tropical convective systems is not agreed with.
    publisherAmerican Meteorological Society
    titleComments on “Frictional Dissipation in a Precipitating Atmosphere”
    typeJournal Paper
    journal volume58
    journal issue9
    journal titleJournal of the Atmospheric Sciences
    identifier doi10.1175/1520-0469(2001)058<1173:COFDIA>2.0.CO;2
    journal fristpage1173
    journal lastpage1177
    treeJournal of the Atmospheric Sciences:;2001:;Volume( 058 ):;issue: 009
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